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of government in your life. i would like to know what to think about that. it is a hearty debate it seems this year between the two debates. our lines are open and. -- lines are open. you also send us a message by e- mail. can post on facebook foresees ben. weet.end us fa t what should the role of government be in your life? this story was part of peter baker's coverage of the debate. a clash of philosophies. one side sees the central government role. the other side wanted to get out of the way. is also the subject of a fairly new poll from the gallup group majority in the u.s.a., doing too much. so the majority of americans continue to believe the government is trying to do too many things. that is down from a record high of 61% earlier this summer. but for an 10th said the government should do more to solve the nation's problems. we wanted to turn to you and ask, what you believe the role of the government should be in your life? let us listen to president obama. [video clip] >> the first role is to keep the american people state. that is its most basic function. as commander in chief,
captioning sponsored by cbs >> i don't think government can solve all our problems but government's not the source of our problems, either. >> i have a plan. i have five steps that will get this economy going. >> i'm not fighting to create democratic jobs or republican jobs, i'm trying to create american jobs. >> i will not raise taxes on middle-income americans. >> the debates will matter to some undecided voters. >> the debates could decide the election for either one of us. >> from denver, colorado, here is scott pelley. >> pelley: good evening. we're about to see the one thing we haven't seen in this long campaign for the presidency-- the candidates side by side. it's the first of three debates between the democratic incumbent-- 51-year-old barack obama-- and his republican challenger 65-year-old mitt romney. it comes 34 days before the election-- though early voting is already under way in many states. the focus tonight is domestic issues, including the economy, still struggling to recover from the great recession. polls show the race is very close nationally, but in swing st
government calls for dialogue at the beginning of the events in my country, but this call did not find any positive response from most opposition parties. moreover, my government responded positively throughout the crisis to each and every sincere initiative that aims to find a peaceful solution, a solution that is based on national dialogue among syrians, that rejects external manipulation, and that stops the shedding of syrian blood and preserving syria and its future. based on this principle position, and despite the syrian leadership's conviction that there are no sincere intentions among some regional and international parties that push for the escalation of the syrian crisis, which fuel its fire and heat it by forcing all attempts for dialogue, and insisting on creating a state of instability to ensure the need for foreign interference. despite all this, syria cooperated with the arab observers mission, and the subsequent international initiatives linked to the work of the united nations special envoy kofi annan. out of principle, syria received the united nations supervision is seen
. one is make the big picture. he's the free enterpriser and president obama is the big government planner. and those are big differences in philosophy in government. two, romney has a tax cut plan. he has a spending cut plan. he has an energy plan. he's got to make it clear. he's got to explain to people the connection between his plans and the economic recovery that we have not yet had. that's a tall order for romney. and he's going to have to fight hard for it while the, of course is attacking him. >> you said earlier i was watching kudlow and company, you said the first impression is important. he's got to swing right away. you think he'll do that? >> that's my hunch. i've seen this before. aggressive. he's got to put this sort of line in the sand. here's what i believe. and here's what he believes. and there's a big choice in this election. he is the guy who wants redistribution. i'm the guy who wants growth. he's the guy who wants government centered economy. i'm the guy for free enterprise. he's got to say that. but it's doubly hard because he's got to put meat on the bones
easy to dismiss millions of dollars when the government faces trillion of dollars in debt. the left may be cute with a call to end funding for public broadcasting, but here's the homework the left should have done before they and president obama began their reflective aattacks. they are $388 million in assets now. in merchandise sales alone, it brought in $45 million, five times what it received in government grants. that little cute sesame workshop turns out to be a moneymaker producing hundreds of millions of dollars. we take all of that up tonight with former george bush senior adviser carl rove, and as well, the unemployment rate fallg to 7.8%, employers adding just 114,000 jobs. we're talking about that, and, yes, big bird too with the congressional budget office with douglas holtz-eakin. any -- new reports two suspects were arrested in the assassination to the ambassador to libya and three other americans. the man who broke the story that the obama administration knew it was a well-planned terrorist attack within 24 hours. daily beast writer, eli lake, joins us. governor romney ca
very strong views about governing and governance. and i don't early on that either side, governor schwarzenegger's has a monopoly on the best ideas. neither side has a monopoly on wisdom or so pricey and they can predict the future. so you start off with that mindset. i've been called for you as a moderate republican and i am just simply if you have a problem coming back to solve it. you don't run just to win. i mean, there's two parts to the equation. he went away many went together. as this in the last couple years we've lost the part of the equation. you run to win, run to win, run to win. what is the point of holding the office if you cat doing something with it? a couple observations that colleagues have made this is not just republicans or democrats. i suspect they ran against you. lindsey graham wasn't conservative enough, a good friend of mine told me a couple weeks ago that when i ran for governor, they thought it was too conservative to be governor of wisconsin. if the guy running for the senate and i don't think i'm conservative enough. even within the party were becomi
a number of years in the spanish government from 1977 to 82. he was an active participant in the negotiations for spanish entry to what is now the european union, the european economic community. he also participated in a number of spanish negotiation then they got, not wto and with the european union and spain a century into the union after democracy was restored in spain and spain was welcomed into the european community process. in the last year at this government coming was minister of the presidency, played a very essential role in the entire spanish government situation. shortly after he joined banco santander and has now been there for over 20 years. he is now vice-chairman of the bank, member of the board, also member of the board of banesto, banco santander in portugal, a member of the board of a number of other financial companies in the group and is president of the print of the foundation and spain. i think we are uniquely privileged data to have a speaker from banco santander with its unique ability to see both the spanish situation, the overall banking situat
two plans. and by the way, if the government can be as efficient as the private sector and offer premiums that are as low as the private sector, people will be happy to get traditional medicare, or they'll be able to get a private plan. i know my own view is, i'd rather have a private plan. i'd just as soon not having the government telling me what kind of health care i get. i'd rather having a insurance company, if i don't like them, i can get rid of them and get a different insurance company. but people like to make their own choice. and the other thing we have to do for medicare, we have to have the benefits high for those who are low-income, but for high-income people, we're going to have to lower some of the benefits. we have to make sure this plan is there for the long-term. that's the plan i put forward. and by the way, the idea came not even from paul ryan or senator wyden, but it came from bill clinton's chief of staff. this is an idea that's been around a long time. which is saying, hey, let's not see if we can get competition into the medicare world, so that people can
to be put in to a situation where you have a government determining somebody who wants to put the idea up on television can't do that. that's one of the things with the campaign finance is that it's what to nay say about democracy is the worst form of government except for the worst form of government. the campaign finance system may not look perfect. when you look at the alternative i don't know they are god either. i don't know if it's a good to have the department of justice to determine he can't run television ads. ic you should be able to do that. i think it's a first amendment right. when you move to the constitutional right it starts getting ugly. >> yeah. we don't -- even or side there's been money in elections for forever. lots of money. going back as long as with can. we can go back to george washington and the night before. there was tails of flying rum and beer and the voice rang out the day 6 election day. how to they got out of the book. there's been money and things in politics for as long as we know. i don't think either side of a necessarily thinks the money itself and ha
upheaval of some kind. i'm not sure, but neither party can govern and that low of and approve or rating without something happening sizable. i think the other thing is that this fiscal cliff, and i know we will be talking about it, it dominates the news, i do not know how we avoid it, but i think it is conscionable that the markets will start to react -- possible the the markets will react if we start to see sequestration, the bush tax cuts, the debt limit, all of these things that go to make up the fiscal cliff, i think there is a realization about the damage it could do to america's economy. it may force section on the part of the congress and the president -- force action on the part of the congress and the president. this is the most clear campaign i have observed. i still believe there is going to be a strong motivation of us, for a variety of motivations, maybe not all good or all bad, to try to resolve this issue for the sake of the country. maybe i am digging for the pony, but i believe that that has got to happen. there is ample pressure. i will say that this majority leader ac
've seen so far, indicate about the approach to management and governance. today with a simple and outstanding panel of speakers to help us analyze these questions. jon huntsman is a past presidential candidate, so he has a lot of authenticity to discuss these leadership questions. but if i know anything about the subject matter i wouldn't be here today. [laughter] >> we are still please you are here. >> the important discussion today. >> many of you know that jon huntsman was elected governor of utah in 2004, when he compiled a very distinguished record. he oversaw major tax and health care reform and also major improvements in public education. following his service as governor he was appointed by president obama as the ambassador to china in 2009. he left that position to run for president and gained tremendous respect for his forthright discussion of important policy challenges. this fall, governor huntsman actually joined the brookings institution as a distinguished fellow, so we are pleased to call in our colleague. bart gordon is a practicing attorney and partner at k&l
debates later on. maybe you two can negotiate that. if you cut government benefits -- a secretly recorded video of mitt romney at a private fund- raiser was made public -- let's take a look. >> 47% of the people -- who will vote for the president a matter what. who believe the government has responsibility to care for them. who believe they are entitled to health care and food and housing, you name it. that is an entitlement. >> texas -- in 2010, 30.5% of texans filing era -- return paid no income tax. there is no data on how many texans get government assistance, but the census bureau found 24% get social security. 20 -- 14% did retirement income. 5% disability bed -- benefits and 14% from strands. mr. cruz, do you believe that government has a responsibility to care for them? >> of course not. i agree with mitt romney when he says his comments were poorly phrased. keefe said they were in elegantly stated. i think there is a difference. part of the philosophy of president obama is trying to get as many americans as possible dependent on government so that the democrats can stay in power
, a governing and the economy. the moderator will open the segment with a question, then candidates will each have two minutes to respond. at the end, it romney in the president will have two-minute closing statements. live debate coverage tonight starts at 7:00 eastern with a preview. at the the debate, we will get your reaction with emails and tweets. all of that here at c-span. a quick look at previous presidential debates. george w. bush and al gore in 2000. >> by agreement, between the candidates, the first question goes to the governor. you have two minutes to respond. kitty was raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer? no, i do not. i think you know i have not favored the death penalty my entire life. it is one of the reasons we have the biggest drop in crime in any industrial state of america and the lowest murder rates. we have work to do in this nation. we of work to do to fight a real war, not a phoney war against drugs. that is something i want to leave it. -- to lead. even though the vice president has been at least allegedly in charge of th
in changing our policy in afghanistan to count terrorism. we're trying to prop up a government in afghanistan. couldn't terrorism requires far less troops and focuses at striking against al qaeda sweledl as well as any taliban insurjents we might need for the purpose of our fight. i believe that the draw down in afghanistan is well positioned. i'm actually an advocate of something that is more accelerated. i have been for quite some time and i believe we focus on couldn't terrorism which risks less lives. >> we're going to go back on the economy. you say you support a comprehensive solution to the deficit that includes revenues and cuts in spending. can you name one program you've eliminated while you've been in congress? >> yes the s 22. i voted this is something the pentagon did not want but there were those advocating for it. i voted against the s22 which was cut by the way. i voted on a different alternative fighter engine that was not necessary as well and that was cut. and those are examples of programs that were cut. but whey don't want to do is what my opponent says he embraces the ry
who are not in the government, it's incumbent on us to continue to encourage cooperation inside and outside. all of us have thoughts and suggestions to offer and some have technological expertise to land or policy expertise as well but it doesn't have to be done internally and it's terrifying when the government says we are here to help you. we are from the transparency community. we are here to help house well. with that i would like to thank all of the panelists. i would like to thank representative fisa and -- issa and quigly. please visit transparentycaucess for the next event and thank you all so much. [applause] i want to raise an issue that has been for two or three weeks specifically on the national security terms. you already are the oldest president in history and some of your staff say you were tired after your most recent encounter with mr. mondale. i recall president kennedy had to go days on end with bear minimum sleep during the cuban missile crisis. is there any doubt in your mind you would be able to function in such circumstances? >> not at all. i want you to k
spending but he also believed the government had a positive role to play. the interstate highway system, which eisenhower -- which was eisenhower's brainchild. [applause] more money was spent on the intraday -- interstate highway system than the new deal from 1839 to 18 to 41 with zero impact on the budget because it was paid for through gasoline taxes. [applause] thethe st. lawrence seaway connecting the great lakes, opening the great lakes to traffic again had been on the drawing board since the administration of theodore roosevelt and eisenhower -- eisenhower took, assumed the presidency in a time of mccarthyism and incredible communist witchhunt. he did it as he did so many things in the background. it was eisenhower orchestrated the army's response in the army mccarthy hearings. i'm not going to get into a contest but that stunk. and when it was over mccarthy had him vanquished but i think it was the desegregation issue perhaps in which eisenhower most often underestimated. president truman had ordered the army to be desegregated in 1950 but the that the army had not complied. 85%
in the paper that the turkish government has agreed to give a billion dollars to the egyptian government. i thought it was an interesting twist in things. i think it's clear the egyptian feel maybe the american money isn't going come. maybe there isn't the money. that's going change the influence. in that part of the world engagement is the proof or the disprove of the the sis that is involved here. you scrolled a situation next year or the year after at some point where ron iran says we have a nuclear weapon. the united states hasn't gone in or taken military action to stop it. do you think it u would be fundamentally damage together united states perception of power and leadership in the world not being able to write checks is damaging the perception in the world we understand played. >> that was too hypothetical for me. seriously, there's so many steps in there. >> it's just one. >> the united states doesn't top iran from getting a nuclear weapon, does that san diego message that we are incapable of controlling outcomes in a way that some people think we might have in the past through mi
working for our government needs to have protection, and that is an abject failure and that should be a big thing in this election. a chocolates look at mitt romney's comments yesterday in virginia -- host: let's look at mitt romney put the comments just in virginia. [video clip] >> the attacks on america should not be seen as random act. they are a larger struggle that is played out over the middle east, a region that is in the midst of the most profound upheaval in a century. the fault lines of this struggle can be seen in benghazi. the attack on our consulate on september 11, 2012, was likely the work of forces affiliated with those that affect our homeland on september 11, 2001. the latest result can not be blamed on a reprehensible video, despite the administration's attempts to convince us of that. the administration has finally conceded these attacks were the deliver work of terrorists they use violence to impose their ideology on others and who seek to wage perpetual war on the west. guest: it is interesting. on the one hand, mitt romney was criticized for his initial respo
is hurting and the federal government has not provided the sound oversight that we need and that we deserve and we need reform to that end. john mccain, thankfully, has been one representing reform could two years ago, john mccain was the one who pushed so hard for the fannie mae and freddie mac reform measures. they did not want to listen to him and would not go to the reform needed then, think that the alarm has been heard and there will be greater oversight thanks to john mccain's bipartisan efforts. even suspended his own campaign to make sure that he was putting politics aside and putting the country first. >> and senator biden, how, as vice-president, would you work to do with the polarization in washington? >> that is what i have done my whole career. dealing with violence against women and putting more police officers on the street to try to get something done about the genocide and what is going on in bosnia, i have been able to reach across the aisle. but it is fair to say that i have almost as many friends in the republican side of the aisle as i do in the democratic side of the
report from the government. today thursday's weekly jobless claims report. that hits the wires at 8:30. in the meantime, what's been happening in europe is that things have barely bunched there again and they seem to be taking their cues from us.dnched there aganfroms.gnched there agand they seem to be taking their cues from us.ched there again and they seem to be taking their cues from us.hed te again and they seem to be taking their cues from us.ed there again and they seem to be taking their cues from us. dow, nasdaq, s&p all closing slightly higher yesterday. in asia, a long week without chinese trading, but in japan, the nikkei was up by about 77 points. and in bombay, sensex up by 188 points. oil prices actually energy stocks yesterday were lagging as we saw big tumble in crude oil prices. back up by about 6 # ce4 cents, those are levels we haven't seen in quite some tile. ten year note, yielding 1.63%. so that's a slightly higher yield than yesterday. the dollar interesting story, too. you'll see that it is down against the euro. but still 1.2951. so we've been right around 1
convention performance odd ball, unquote. she also wrote a very pro-pbs piece, but failed to cite government subsidies to that network. the former chairman of the board of the associated press, william dean singleton, last april introduced president obama at the annual a.p. lunch onby saying, quote, the president inherited the head winds of the worst economic recession since the great depression. he pushed through congress the biggest economic recovery plan in history, and on and on and on. a glowing introduction. now the a.p. is one of the largest news wire services in the world. and it's biased against mitt romney. i think that's true, beyond a reasonable doubt. local newspapers all over the usa carry a.p. photos and articles every day. that's a huge advantage for president obama. and perhaps the best example of what the national media has become in america. the obama campaign believes governor romney made a big mistake by saying he would stop federal money to pbs and npr. this morning, this ad was released. >> bernie madoff, dennis kozlowski, criminals, gluttons of greed. and the evil gen
about a stimulus and hiring more government workers and having the government making investments. of course, he talks about raising taxes. they plan to raise taxes on the american people and that will kill jobs. we want to create jobs and not kill jobs in this country. [applause] we also heard this plan are raising taxes and cutting medicare. in fact, there has been a study released this week. the people look at his spending plans and all of the debt they create and interest that its charge. he will raise taxes on the middle class as well by some $4,000 per family. the american people do not want more taxes. they want less spending and more growth. we will do that and get america back on a balanced budget. [applause] i do not want to raise taxes on any one. this president seems to think that keeping our taxes the same as they are now is a huge tax cut. only in washington would do thing keeping taxes as they are is a huge tax cut. hot i will find a way to bring our taxes down -- i will find a way to bring down our taxes. we will give the middle class a tax break. [cheers and appla
thought came from alan tomlinson. what a shocking about the jobs are created is that their government jobs, government supported jobs. in fields like health care where the government is intentionally involved throwing money at the institutions in that industry. by this of first. do you agree? >> yes, i do. since the end of the recession roughly 87 percent of all the new jobs created have been in the relatively low-paying fields of private-sector health care, temporary help, hospitality and retailing. that is a scary number, and this shows why so many voters are so disappointed with the current state of the u.s. economy. they want jobs growth, and they also want quality jobs. gerri: let's get carried in here. what do you say? >> first off, i have to get back to something here with all due respect. participation. it crashed in the last four years. we would be 11 percent unemployment if we use that number. i even of the bls and ask them for a list of all these people. all these people supposedly get the rate down. you can talk about whether they made it up or not, but this is all up in the ye
need more teachers. he said, "we don't need more teachers. we don't need more government." yes, i'm saying he was dishonest. >> schieffer: would you go so far as to say lied. >> i'm saying he was dishonest with his intrpz you can characterize that any way you want. >> schieffer: why didn't the president bring up the famous 47% videotape? >> the president, obviously, didn't see the appropriate opportunity. i mean, i think the president was earnestly trying to answer the questions that was asked on the topics that were being discussed and he didn't fiend the opportunity to raise it. and it's obviously well known. we've been discussing it for a wrong time. i think all of america knows about that. so i-- >> schieffer: i bring that up because the very next night when he was on fox, romney himself brought it up, or at least talked about it. here's what he said. >> in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question-and-answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that's just completely wrong. >>
of this week, the tax cliff that comes off the spending, the taxes and the more government bureaucracy is exactly what the democrats are selling. this has caused a hiewmg impact on employment, we have a lack of jobs and the future that lies ahead is very bleak, economically. republicans offer a sound plan, not just to cut taxes but to get us back to work and our candidates differ with every single democrat on this issue, i think we will do just fine. >> shannon: we mentioned the key states where you are watching, ohio, california, massachusetts, can you give us insight maybe into the seats that are leaning one way or the other and you are dwoaing a lot of resources to make sure it falls into your column? >> did you mention, a race in massachusetts. one of the top republican challengers that we have against john teenager neboston. richard is doing a fabulous job. he has ethically challenged the american people, not only want and need honest members of congress, but i think we will win that seat. as you look across the country, republicans are on offense, all across the country, against
-minute showdown at the university of denver. the platform gave govern romney an opportunity to reignite his campaign which has suffered some this summer. they sparred across a range of issues. >> there's a various done of small businesses across the country saying what's the effect of obamacare in your hiring plans. three quarters said it makes us less likely to hire people. i just don't know how the president could come into office, facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment and economic crises at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obamacare instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. >> the irony is that we've seen this model work really well, in massachusetts. because govern romney did a good thing, working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model, and as a consequence, people are covered there. it hasn't destroyed jobs. when govern romney stood on the stage with other republican candidates for the nomination, and he was asked, would you take $10 of spending cuts for just $1 of r
declaring war irdlede pscriptiondrugexpaded they are concerned with the lack of accountability in government. in the case of occupy, it's wall street, and guess what -- they are both right. >> he summed it up beautifully. >> when you were running, it was a matter of people getting to call into an 800-number. now we're into this world of social media, where you can tweet something out in a matter of seconds. do you think that would make a third-party iran or any kind of a people's movement easier today than it was 20 years ago when you had to rely on people calling in to a phone number? do you think the computer revolution, which you have been involved since the start, and in particular at the social media revolution of the last several years, should create a situation where you are on twitter, where you can mobilize people more easily? >> sure. >> shouldn't that make the type of solution you are talking about, people demanding change, similar to have? >> that is what we need, and i think that is a good way to do it. >> the problem would be they have the tools today to instantly to mobilize.
of the government, i don't receive any royalties, so the price has been set very low, and i hope you all enjoy it. [laughter] >> let's talk a little bit about the idea that these machines have proceeded us to mars. is it still, ultimately, the target to put a human being there? >> for sure. and it's sometimes very surprising if you talk -- all of the scientists i spoke to really want to be there. they, they sense that they need to be there in order to do exploration the way it should be done. and part of it has to do with all those limitations that i talked about. they all want to go in different places. we'd accomplish a lot more with six people than six people standing on a skateboard together. and i think your point, though, about anticipating or preparing has become more and more real. i don't think we understood that so well before mer. that we could for reasonable cost put these rovers in different places around mars and figure out where would we want to go, where should we land, where should the human landing be. >> so what's the time limit? >> what's that? >> what's the timeline? >> write
networks for the poor in new mexico. i believe if the federal government would have block granted the state of new mexico 43% less money, done away with all the strings and the mandates that i could have effectively overseen the delivery of health care to the poor. i think you apply that same template to medicare, health care for those over 65, get the federal government out of the health care business completely, give it up to the states -- in this case block grants that balance revenu with expenditures -- and that's how we're going to get out of this. we're going to -- giving it up to the states, 50 laboratories of innovation and best practice, i think that's exactly what we will have. we'll have some fabulous success, we'll also have some horrible failure. failure will get avoided, success will get emulated. but that's how we're going to find our way out of this. >> host: gary johnson is joining us from new mexico this morning. he will be with us for about 40 more minutes. we'll put the phone numbers on the bottom of the screen as we take a look at the libertarian nominee and his positio
a view very similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago. that a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle down government would work. >> president obama sounded a familiar alarm. warning of romney's been there done that economics. >> the approach that governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch that was made in 2001 and 2003. we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years. >> whether it was health care, jobs, or medicare, it was romney who stood out for his aggressive ste. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care. >> the president made his points in a slower, more laid back, often looking down, sometimes appearing disengaged. it's not that he didn't try to rip apart romney's economic plan. >> that kind of top-down economics where folks at the top are doing well, so the average person making $3 million is getting a $250,00
, of course he wants to hire more government workers. look, all of these things have not ignited our economy the way it should be ignited. we've seen the slowest recovery from a recession. bill: john roberts traveling with the campaign. live in vanmeter, iowa, that is west of des moines. what is happening there, john? >> reporter: good morning. governor romney will be talking agriculture today. not surprisingly we're on a 700 acre farm owned by the cook family. a lot of soybeans and corn here. we're in madison county. governor romney won this in the caucuses by the way. he will argue the president's policies things like estate taxes, climate change, environmental regulations, energy policy are hurting farmers. he continues to go after the president on issue of jobs of the even though the unemployment number is down below the psych lodge call level at 8% on the stump in newport news, governor romney found a new way to use it. >> if you look back 60 years, at all the months we had unemployment before 8% before president obama. there were 39 months. in all 60 years with unemployment above 8%. u
because they're too good? >> what we're seeing right now in my view is a trickle-down government approach which thinks that government can do a better job than free people pursuing their dreams. >> it's thursday, october 4th, and "starting point" begins right now. >> good morning! welcome, everybody. our starting point this morning is the morning after debate night in america. both candidates are on the campaign trail today, again, after the first of three presidential debates, the first one, of course, in denver last night. president obama and mitt romney going toe to toe on critical issues, like the economy and health care. and by most accounts, it was mitt romney who emerged the victor. lots of debate analysis ahead on "starting point." we'll be talking live with john mccain of arizona and rand paul of kentucky. from team obama, we'll be speaking with martin o'malley and campaign spokeswoman, jen psaki. plus, obama's former economic adviser, austan goolsbee. first, though, a look at the instant reaction from the debate in the cnn/orc poll, of debate watchers taken right after the debat
in afghanistan and no evidence that the american plan to hand over to a credible, stable afghan government will work. these village elders tell me once u.s. troops leave, a civil war will begin and u.s.-trained afghan forces will not be able to stop it. >> are you preparing for this fight? are you already stockpiling weapons and ammunition and getting yourself ready? yes, we are, we will definitely fight, he says. and what about the afghan government? it's meaningless here, they say. you think it's possible that the taliban will try and come back. yes, they will, he says. it makes a decade's work of american battles seem futile. it wasn't always like this. >> the united states military has begun strikes. >> at first, the war had momentum. and a clear purpose. al qaeda with bases in afghanistan attack the united states on 9/11. just three months later, the u.s. drove the taliban from power, al qaeda and osama bin laden were on the run. it was done with a few hundred cia officers, special forces, and air power. a quick victory. but not decisive. >> that was nbc's richard engel reporting. and
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